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[FW1] WinME



I have users using the Windows 95, Version 4157 build working fine on WinME.  Don't try to use the WinNT or Win2000 client on WinME.

Good Luck.

Andy Faulkner


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Subject: Firewall-1 Mailinglist Digest V1 #1486



Firewall-1 Mailinglist Digest Sunday, November 26 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1486



	In this issue:

	[FW1] NAT & User Auth
	[FW1] SecureRemote and WinME
	RE: [FW1] SecureRemote and WinME
	[FW1] Capacity and Throughput of NAT with FW-1 
	Re: [FW1] http domain filter

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 17:29:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: Matthew Melbourne <[email protected]>
Subject: [FW1] NAT & User Auth

Hi,

I curently have a test FW-1 system in the lab, between two networks. The
firewall interfaces are 10.0.0.1/8 and 192.168.0.11/24. This is FW-1 4.1 SP1
running under NT.

I have a rule in the rulebase which states:

 src            dst             service         action

 grp-ss         wks-ss-server   http, ftp       accept

The group grp-ss, contains two network objects, which defines address ranges
within the 10.0.0.0/8 subnet. wks-ss-server has IP address 192.168.0.100.

There is also a single manual entry in the Address Translation policy,
which hides the grp-ss subnets behind the address grp-ss-hide (192.168.0.80)

 src            dest            service         src             dst     service

 grp-ss         wks-ss-server   any             grp-ss-hide (H) =orig   =orig

This works exactly as expected, wks-ss-server sees traffic from the
'grp-ss' subnets originating from the grp-ss-hide address (192.168.0.80)

If the action on the rule in the rulebase is changed to "User Auth", 
and user access is enabled, then NAT appears to not function as expected. 
(The manual Address Translation rule is still present).

 src            dst             service         action

 users@grp-ss   wks-ss-server   http, ftp       User Auth

Users are correctly authenticated and allowed access to wks-ss-server, but
traffic appears to originate from the IP address of the firewall (192.168.0.11)
on the 192.168.0.0/24 subnet, and not the NAT hide address of 192.168.0.80 
which would be expected. The log file show that the address translations
are not occurring.

Cheers,

Matt

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:44:50 +0100
From: Cedric Amand <[email protected]>
Subject: [FW1] SecureRemote and WinME

Hello

     A quick question : SecureRemote just doesn't seem to
     work on Windows ME : afetr installation, the program asks
     for rebooting, then during boot up you get a bluescreen
     with GPF/system halted.

     only solution if you wanna boot again is to de-install SR.

     Does anyone know a solution to this ?
     Does Checkpoint EVER plan to finally be on the cutting edge ?




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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:33:51 -0500
From: "Woods, Curtis" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [FW1] SecureRemote and WinME

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I have Build 4157 working fine under ME

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From: Cedric Amand
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Sent: 11/25/00 12:44 PM
Subject: [FW1] SecureRemote and WinME


Hello

     A quick question : SecureRemote just doesn't seem to
     work on Windows ME : afetr installation, the program asks
     for rebooting, then during boot up you get a bluescreen
     with GPF/system halted.

     only solution if you wanna boot again is to de-install SR.

     Does anyone know a solution to this ?
     Does Checkpoint EVER plan to finally be on the cutting edge ?




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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:11:51 +1100
From: "Yin To Chu" <[email protected]>
Subject: [FW1] Capacity and Throughput of NAT with FW-1 

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Hi :

Just wondering who knows the max throughput and max number of sessions that
can be really supported by FW-1, say on a Sun Netra T1 with 440MHz CPU and
on a Nokia IP650 box?

Any source reports on such stress testing?

Just thinking of how many boxes are needed for NATing, say, one million of
current users. Investigating Internet access from Mobile networks  a few
years down the track.

Or investigate other boxes with better NAT capabilities. Another other
suggestions : Netscreen, layer 4 switches?

Thanks

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:09:08 -0500
From: CryptoTech <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FW1] http domain filter

With user auth, they will be challenged each time, have you tried partially automatic client auth?

[email protected] wrote:

> I would love to do that, but the domain objects won't take in a rule when
> using User Auth!  You have to put the domain objects in that particular
> user's permissions.  Then I still get the same problem, users are being
> prompted when they come across a resource they don't have access to.  This
> is very frustrating!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jamie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CryptoTech [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 8:53 PM
> To: MIS Security Alerts
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FW1] http domain filter
>
> I would just set up domain objects and use them in the destination field.
> This way they are evaluated upon use (then cached per the DNS valid
> interval.)  This should work quite well.
>
> The resource idea is not bad, but tends to work better if you just used ip
> addrs.
>
> so just create domain objects like   yahoo.com, <sitename.com>, and so on.
>
> HTH,
> CryptoTech
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > I am trying to set up simple access rules for 4 different groups.  These
> > groups have a variety of different access to sites like av.com, yahoo.com,
> > etc.  I am toying with a few ideas and I want to bounce it off a few
> people.
> > My desired result is to use something like domain objects so that I don't
> > have to manually input any changes when yahoo gets a new server.  I have
> > gotten it to work using URI resources and it works great, BUT (and you
> knew
> > there was a but) when someone access a site they don't have permissions
> to,
> > it just comes up with user/pass prompts until it finally moves to an Error
> > 407 - not "Access Denied."  Here is what I have found the reason to be:
> the
> > rule setup to allow users to these sites is below
> >
> > Group1@internal any     http->www.yahoo.com     User Auth       Account
> >
> > It looks as though because the destination is any I will never see that
> > access denied error.  A solution was to use the domain objects in the dest
> > field, only they are not allowed when using User Auth.  Now this may
> appear
> > to be cosmetic only and not bother fixing, but when I user accesses
> > yahoo.com, several gif's on that page are called from other URL's.  So, in
> > order to load the page the users will get frustrated after trying their
> > user/pass so many times.  It will eventually load without those gif's.  If
> I
> > specify the IP of yahoo.com as the dest, the page loads no problem and
> just
> > ignores the gif's (no prompts because access is denied).
> >
> > Anyone know the secret or have a few moments to spare and test my
> theories?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jamie Doherty
> >
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