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Re: [FW-1] -[FW-1] Whats the deal with CCSE+



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----- Original Message -----

Subject: Re: [FW-1] Whats the deal with CCSE+


> I must agree with Jim Parker.
> This whole topic makes me nauseus from the fact there is little or NO
> information to achieve any in-depth understanding of these topics without
> the opportunities created by your employer or shovelling tons of cash to
> training organizations.
> How many employers will allow you to play around with an online firewall
to
> obtain experience with VPN's etc...
>
> At least CISCO has a router emulator to help assist with understanding the
> IOS.
>
> Maybe there is one for Checkpoint...
>
> ANYONE KNOW?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: x fw1 [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 01 May 2002 09:40
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] Whats the deal with CCSE+
>
>
> I agree that is does seem like an M$ tactic BUT I found that MCSE course
> didn't have enough in depth on VPN, SecuRemote and auth (e.g.
> Radius/LDAP/NT/AD/ACE) - I had to learn through experience (and problems
!).
> Now I know we are not there to learn auth schemes but we need to know how
it
> interacts CP s/w and any gotchas.
>
> Maybe if these areas are thoroughly covered it will at least be
> considering....
>
> Any other takes out there ?
>
> (Maybe I just had a crummy training org ?)
>
> T
>
> >From: Jim Parker <[email protected]>
> >Reply-To: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
> ><[email protected]>
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [FW-1] Whats the deal with CCSE+
> >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:51:07 +0100
> >
> >Load of B*^^*cks, Seems more like a Micro$oft MCSE stunt doesn't it?
> >
> >jp
> >
> >CCSA/CCSE
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
> >[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> >Holland, Stephen
> >Sent: 30 April 2002 18:23
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: [FW-1] Whats the deal with CCSE+
> >
> >
> >Was the CCSE to easy I thought that was the enhanced knowlege of there
> >product?
> >
> >Quote from CP!!
> >
> >http://www.checkpoint.com/services/education/certification/certificatio
> >ns/cc
> >se_plus.html
> >
> >"Check Point Certified Security Expert Plus:
> >Enterprise Integration and Troubleshooting - CCSE Plus
> >The CCSE Plus certification is designed to compliment the CCSE
> >certification. By achieving this certification, you enhance your
> >enterprise knowledge of VPN-1/FireWall-1 and acquire the most in-depth
> >technical expertise validated by Check Point."
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