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Re: [FW-1] VPN + Secure Platform NAT problems + Cisco VPN Concent rator



Hello,

What I would suggest doing is a snoop or a tcpdump on the ingress (internal)
interface and the egress (external) interface of your firewall and grep for
the remote address that you are attempting to connect to.

See what addresses are being used on the internal and external interfaces
and confirm that you natting is working correctly.

Get the guy on the Cisco concentrator to send you a dump (no, not that sort
of dump:) of the logs.

If he is seeing your internal address then your natting is not working
correctly, full stop. He has an "encryption domain" specified in his
crypto-acl which does not contain your hosts internal address.

So look there first. I'd also suggest that you take special notice of the
SRC and DST (direction) of the packet in the log viewer and ensure that you
use the predefined VPN/IPSEC log query in the Smartview Tracker.

I would say that you tunnel is NOT set up properly because you are getting
"no valid SA" which are the parameters to negotiate the successfull build of
an IPSEC tunnel.

Let us know how it goes.

Regards,

Paul Dawson



-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan Laws [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 02 September 2003 03:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FW-1] VPN + Secure Platform NAT problems + Cisco VPN
Concentrator
Importance: High


Hi All,

I have come across this odd problem which is causing me some trouble, I
am hoping someone else has seen this and knows a solution.

I have SecurePlatform AI forming a 3DES VPN Tunnel to a Cisco VPN
Concentrator running OS 3.6.5 Nov2002

My problem is as follows, I have a internal network object (10.2.1.1/24)
statically NATed to 203.x.x.1/24 with VPN community defined

EXTPARTNER-VPN-HOSTS    MYVPN-HOSTS
MYVPN-HOSTS                     EXTPARTNER-VPN-HOSTS

Due to the requirements of the partner I have my internal object
statically NATed to a public address, it is the public address that the
partners hosts inside of the VPN tunnel will make connections to and
from and vice versa.

If I sit on the machine (10.2.1.1/24 -- NATed 203.x.x.1) and send an
ICMP ping down the line to the partner host in the vpn domain
(202.1.x.1/24) the server replys and the VPN tunnel is formed and all is
well. If I look at my log I see the internal server XLATE to the public
NAT IP and the tunnel comes up, packets pass and everything is good.

BUT

Now I fire off a ftp connection to the same host and nothing happens, it
fails, and shortly after in my logs I see a drop with "no valid SA"

I confer with the other party running the Cisco side and he tells me,
when he sees the ICMP ping all is fine, but when I kick off the FTP
connection he see the SA deleted as the Cisco sees the source address of
the FTP connection as the internal address of 10.2.1.1/24 and not the
Public NAT address, thus the Cisco deletes the tunnel.

In my logs after a short wait I see a dropped ftp packet related to the
dead SA, however I see that according to the log viewer that the
internal server has been XLATED to the public NAT address.

Basically FW-1 is telling me it NATed the packet to the public IP but
the Cisco terminating the tunnel is seeing the private IP Address, this
deleting the tunnel.

I have tried using auto-NAT rules, manual NAT rules, but still I have
the same problems.

Thank you for any light you can shed on this matter

Cheers,

Brendan


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