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Re: [FW-1] Error "th_flags # message_info TCP packet out of state"



You are saying:
Use Network Time Protocol on all nodes + FW?
So it should be something with timing?

by
 Metod

>>> Brendan Laws <[email protected]> 3.7.2002 8:41:59 >>>
I have also seen this a lot,

It seemed to go away by itself when we made the all networks/hosts
behind the firewall use NTP as well as the firewalls.

Cheers

Brendan

-----Original Message-----
From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2002 3:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW-1] Error "th_flags # message_info TCP packet out of
state "


I am also having the same problem. I tried a solution from the web but
no luck for me.. may be you can try..


Solution Title:
 What to do when receiving errors in Log Viewer: "th_flags ##
message_info TCP packet out of state" Solution ID:  skI4308 Creation
Date:  08/16/2001 Last Modified Date:  11/30/2001


Environment:  Check Point NG
FireWall-1 NG
VPN-1 NG
Rule 0
Non SYN packet
Connections table
Kernel
TCP
Logging



Symptoms: Error in Log Viewer: "th_flags ## message_info TCP packet out
of state" Drop logs on rule 0


Cause: This error means that VPN-1/FireWall-1 intercepted a non-Syn
packet which does not have an entry in the FireWall's connections table.
FireWall-1 will therefore drop the packet.


This error is the equivalent to the VPN-1/FireWall-1 4.1 error message:
"Unknown established TCP packet". In VPN-1/FireWall-1 NG the mechanism
has been improved and the log may show more drops on rule 0 than were
seen in FireWall-1 4.1. The error can be the result of several possible
causes:


1. Dropping packets belonging to expired connections. Increasing the
timeout of the related service can improve the situation. 2. Dropping
packets after policy unload and load. In this case connections
established when there is no policy are out of state, and cannot be
matched  to packets of already established connections. 3. Situations
involving asymmetric routing, where all the TCP handshake packets were
missed. 4. Direction enforcement for unidirectional connections, where
packet flow is in the opposite direction to the connection direction. 5.
TCP handshake direction enforcement, where some of the TCP handshake
packets are in the wrong direction.

Solution: To allow non-Syn packets which do not have state information
in the connections table to be matched against the Rule Base:


On FireWall-1 NG FP1 and above
========================
Using dbedit, edit the following property to "1" in the objects_5_0.C:
:fw_allow_out_of_state_tcp (0) Press here to learn how to use dbedit


On FireWall-1 NG HF2 (Hotfix-2)
========================


UNIX
--------
1. Stop the FireWall (fwstop)


2. Perform the following platform dependant command:


Solaris:


Add the following line to the /etc/system file
set fw:fw_allow_out_of_state_tcp = 1


Linux:


Add the following parameter to the $FWDIR/bin/fwstart script. The change
should look like this:


BEFORE -


. . . . insmod $smp_prefix -f $fwmod kver=$kver . . . . .


AFTER -


. . . . insmod $smp_prefix -f $fwmod kver=$kver
fw_allow_out_of_state_tcp = 1. . . .


3. Reboot the machine !


Windows NT / 2000
-----------------------------
1. Add the following DWORD to the registry under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\FW1\Parameters

A variable named AllowOutOfStateTCP should be added with a value of 1.


2. Reboot !


NOTE: If one wishes to just prevent these logs from getting into the Log
Viewer proceed as follows:


UNIX
--------
1. Stop the FireWall (fwstop)


2. Perform the following platform dependant command:


Solaris:


Add the following line to the /etc/system file
set fw:fw_log_out_of_state_tcp = 0


Linux:


Add the following parameter to the $FWDIR/bin/fwstart script. The change
should look like this:


BEFORE -


. . . . insmod $smp_prefix -f $fwmod kver=$kver . . . . .


AFTER -


. . . . insmod $smp_prefix -f $fwmod kver=$kver fw_log_out_of_state_tcp
= 0. . . .


3. Reboot the machine !


Windows NT / 2000
-----------------------------
1. Add the following DWORD to the registry under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\FW1\Parameters

A variable named DisableLogOutOfStateTCP should be added with a value of
1.


2. Reboot the machine !

Subash Bose
HPA



-----Original Message-----
From: Shelton, Raymond A. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW-1] Error "th_flags # message_info TCP packet out of
state"


We now belong to two of the same clubs; the one to which you've
referred, and the one that gets out of office autoresponders from posts
to this list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Parker [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 8:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW-1] Error "th_flags # message_info TCP packet out of
state"


So how many are we in the club...


--- Metod Ckufca <[email protected]> wrote:
>  Welcome to the club.
>Anybody that is using FW-1 above 4.1 SP4 is getting this errors. I have

>tried to get rid of then and gave up. ;-( Maybe you can read some DOC
>about how is FW-1 managing stateful inspection
table. Tray this one
>http://www.enteract.com/~lspitz/pubs.html  ...Understanding the
>FireWall-1
State Table
>
>That is this error all about ... "out of state"
>
>In some cases, error is coused by spoof filters on NIC-s ... this is
something to check.
>
>But in the end there is NO final solution to this "problem".
>
>BTW: If anyone have some useful info about this error ..I'm still
>intrested
:-)
>
>best regards
> Metod
>
>
>>>> Hieu Cao <[email protected]> 2.7.2002 19:46:58 >>>
>I keep seeing a lot of this error messages ""th_flags # message_info
>TCP packet out of state" into the FW from external interface and from
FW to
>internal interface.   I am unable to find meaningful resolutions from
>both Nokia's and CP's knowledge-base websites.
>
>Has anyone seen this kind of error in the log before?  If so, what was
>the fix?
>
>Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank You.
>
>Hieu
>
>Nokia I330 IPSO 3.4.2, CP NG FP1
>
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