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Re: [FW-1] Packet out od state from second level inside network



Hi Metod,

If I've understood what you've said below traffic from LAN to LAN2 is
router via CPFW (CPFW then routes to LAN2 via router), whereas traffic from
LAN2 to LAN is routed directly to LAN via router (bypassing CPFW). CPFW
only ever sees one side of the connection which is why you are getting
packet out of state errors.

There are three options that will work:
(1) Add a route to all machines in LAN to route to LAN2 via router instead
of the default route.
(2) Add a static route to router to route all LAN traffic via CPFW
(3) Change your default route for machines on LAN to be router instead of CPFW

(2) has the affect of routing all LAN-LAN2 traffic via CPFW (not a good
idea. If you want traffic from LAN to LAN2 to go through CPFW you should
add another NIC to CPFW and get rid of router. There is no security
advantage in this option; it'll just put a heavy load on CPFW.)
(3) has the affect of routing all LAN-Internet traffic via router (a very
_very_ bad idea as LAN will not be able to access the Internet if router is
down, plus to puts an unnecessary load on router)

You really want to go for option (1) - in which case you can remove your
LAN-LAN2 firewall rules because CPFW will never see LAN-LAN2 traffic.

Cheers,
Dale

At 08:15 12/06/2002 +0200, you wrote:
I think tahat routing is done correctly.
Router is aware of directly connected LAN-s (LAN and LAN2) and it has
default route to CPFW.
CPFW has default route ot external interface and static route to LAN2.

The logic is that if packet for LAN2 directed to LAN hits CPFW (because of
default gateway in net device in LAN is pointed to CPFW) it is send to
router witch is aware of LAN2. But the problem is that this packet is
first picked up by CPFW checked agains rules, NAT-ed, routed and then
droped (don't know whay) by CPFW. This explains whay I have NAT and
classical roules for LAN2.

Are you saying that I should reverse logic and I should change default
gateway in every network device in LAN (from CPFW to router)?

by
 Metod


>>> Dale Wilson <[email protected]> 11.6.2002 18:13:59 >>> Firstly, if you've got the routing right you don't need any firewall rules (NAT or security) for connections between LAN and LAN2. Is the problem only occurring for communications between LAN and LAN2 (i.e. can LAN and LAN2 talk to the Internet without a problem)? You may find that traffic from LAN to LAN2 is routed through CP first and traffic from LAN2 via router is not. Check that LAN routes to LAN2 directly through router and not CP, and that router does not route traffic from LAN2 to LAN via CP.

At 17:40 10/06/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>  I'm dealin with problem how to pass thru packets form second level
network.
>
>Running CP FW-1 NG (BTW: Same problem occurs on CP FW1 4.1) with two NIC-s.
>Everything works fine until I have connected another network behind FW.
>Somethin like ...
>
>
>          (Internet)------(CP FW1 NG)-------(LAN)------(router)-------(LAN2)
>
>
>FW-1 is running hiding NAT for LAN and some static NAT for internet
>services like WEB, FTP ect.
>
>I have added hiding NAT for LAN2 to acces internet.
>Added route to LAN2 so FW-1 is aware of LAN2 (router betwen LAN-s is doing
>classical IP routing)
>Added NAT roules for communication between LAN and LAN2, as they need no
>NAT to communicate.
>Added access rules for LAN2 to acces LAN and internet.
>
>Everything looks setup prefect, then we get to the problem. All packets I
>get form LAN to are reported out of state.
>Message is folowing:
>th_flags ## message_info TCP packet out of state
>
>For the record: I can ping devices in LAN2 from CP FW1.
>
>Does anyone have any idea. I've lost a lot of time on that and I run out
>of ideas. :-(
>
>Best regards
>
>  Metod
>
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