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Re: [FW-1] 4.1 and asymetric routing



Dumb question here, did you have SYN attack protection enabled under the 4.0
config?  It sounds like that's what the traffic is bumping into.  The
implication is that either (a) it was disabled in your 4.0 config or (b) the
behavior of the attack protection changed somewhere between 4.0 and 4.1.
Just an idea... Dunno if it's right or not :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Morrison, Gordon [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW-1] 4.1 and asymetric routing


That is already the case.  The firewall sorts all VPN traffic and redirects
it to the VPN device.  Under 4.0 this works.  Under 4.1 it does not.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW-1] 4.1 and asymetric routing


The way you describe the problem, it's not really a firewall problem, it's a
routing issue.

You know the destination subnet that packets go to on your VPN, so add a
route on the server hosting your firewall.

destination=the remote VPN subnet
gateway= the VPN appliance ip on your LAN

The net effect is that when packets replying to requests from the remote VPN
site hit the firewall (the default gateway for your LAN), they will get
forwarded to the VPN appliance address, which should know what to do with
them from there.


>>> [email protected] 04/10/02 10:46AM >>>
I am looking at deploying 4.1 on a LAN that has previously had 4.0 and am
encountering a difficulty.  It appears that FW1 doesn't like the fact that
the VPN appliance dumps packets directly onto the LAN without passing them
through the firewall first.  (The firewall is the default gateway for the
LAN).  What seems to be happening is that a user in a remote office will
make a request to a server in the office with the 4.1 firewall, sending
their SYN.  When the server responds with a SYN-ACK to it's default gateway
(the 4.1 firewall), the firewall doesn't like the fact that it didn't see
the SYN first and drops the packet.  In 4.0 this didn't seem to be a
problem.

My question is: Is there any way to get 4.1 to behave this way as well?  I
have tried modifying the fw_head.def file per the phoneboy web site to no
avail.

My other options are to set the VPN appliance as the default gateway or put
it on a separate subnet with the firewall as it's default gateway....or any
other creative thoughts people might have...

Thanks,
/Gordon


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