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Re: [FW-1] HA + LoadBalancing with Foundry switches ?



Is it possible to do High Availibility without having to use sophisticted
switches in front of our cp firewall? Say hub.

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Turoff" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FW-1] HA + LoadBalancing with Foundry switches ?


> J.
>
> I've only seen the foundry switches load balance in a demo - I was quite
> impressed with the ease of setup and administration and we did a number of
> tests, although we didn't do stateful SecuRemote failovers, which is the
> scenario you describe.
>
> I have a couple of thoughts.  First, is whether the Foundries are even
> needed in your environment.  The IP530 is a relatively powerful unit.
With
> VRRP configured (no big deal) you would have a fully redundant solution
and
> would save yourself the cost of four foundries, which I know are expensive
> units.  You should analyze your bandwidth needs and determine whether you
> really need to load balance this traffic.  We did this and determined that
> we would be fine with just a VRRP High Availability solution.
>
> It sounds to me like you are not properly synchronizing the state tables.
> In order to have stateful failover of SecuRemote connections, you need to
> properly setup state synchronization between the two nokias.  This is
> described in the manual, but basically requires:
>
>         create $FWDIR/conf/sync.conf file
>         do fw putkeys between the two firewalls
>         setup an NTP server and get the firewalls synching their clocks
from the
> NTP server.
>
> The NTP server is key - the firewalls' clocks need to be within a few
> milliseconds of each other and the only way to do this is via NTP.  If you
> do not have an NTP server in your environment, it is entirely feasible to
> setup one Nokia as the NTP master, and another as the NTP slave.  (Don't
> forget you may need to craft rules to permit your firewalls to talk NTP
and
> to exchange state (the FW1 service ).
>
> We usually share state with a dedicated crossover cable shared by each
> firewall.  By snooping the port, you should see traffic going to and fro
on
> port 256.  Also, you can print out the number of values in the state table
> with:
>
>         fw tab -t connections -s
>
> The last number in the #vals column should be roughly equal on both nokias
> if you type this command at the same time.  This tells you that each
> firewall has the same number of connections in the state table, therefore
> along with snooping port to verify bi-directional communication on port
> 256, it is confirmation that state synch is working.
>
> Also, for VPN failovers, I believe that you need to setup Checkpoint
> "Gateway Clusters".  These are special network objects for gateways where
> you combine numerous firewalls into a single cluster object and then use
> that object in the "Install On" field of your rulebase.  Then the "cluster
> object" appears as an option when you go to push out the rulebase.  Take a
> look at the VPN pdf file that comes with checkpoint (or download another
> copy from their website).  Take a look at the VPN manual, particularly the
> chapter "High Availability for Encrypted Connections".
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Joel
>
>
>
>
>
> At 02:40 PM 3/23/02 +0000, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Does anybody have any experience with a VPN-1/FW-1 load-balancing
solution
> >using Foundry ServerIron Layer 4 switches ?
> >
> >Our FW modules are installed on Nokia IP530s, but VRRP is not in use. HA
is
> >being handled by the Foundry switches, as is the load-balancing.
> >
> >Regular services are working fine, and are being failed over correctly
when
> >one FW goes down. But SecuRemote sessions are set up correctly, but are
lost
> >when the FW module through which the connection is going goes down. The
only
> >way to re-establish the tunnel is to restart SecuRemote and start over.
> >
> >If anybody out there has dealt with a similar scenario and got SR to work
> >flawlessly, I'd love to ask him/her some specific questions...!
> >
> >I look forward to finding somebody who has swam in these waters
previously.
> >  ;-)
> >
> >Thanks and regards,
> >
> >J.
> >
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