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Re: [FW-1] SecureRemote/SecureClient on win9x w/ NT authenticatio n..



Are the 2 DNS entries to the Userc.C file on the fw or the client or both?

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris H [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW-1] SecureRemote/SecureClient on win9x w/ NT authenticatio
n..


We have been pretty successful, but have had to do
some work-arounds to make it NT-like.  First is that
we implemented Netswitcher.  This allows the person to
put the corp WINS and DNS information in the settings
with the click of an icon and reboot to activate it
(we have internal and external DNS for security.)
Make sure that the DNS information is being encrypted
with the two additions to the userc.C file so that
they can get at the DNS server.  We run logon scripts
that work under SDL with NT but for WIN9X we had to
implement a shortcut icon on the desktop to logon
scripts on the domain controllers.  The user has to
double click the icon once they have been
authenticated by the FW which then maps all drives
etc.  Even though WIN9X doesn't give a successful
domain logon message, NBT communications work once the
IP connection is successful.  For us it has been
adding the small work arounds to provide what the NT
users have.  Just not as smooth and seamless as NT.

--- "Jarmoc, Jeff" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I've tried that, but I found that any changes made
> to the users WINS
> settings in DUN apply to all their dialup
> connections, clearly that's not a
> good thing if they're dialing an ISP or occasionally
> dialing other corporate
> networks..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:41 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] SecureRemote/SecureClient on
> win9x w/ NT
> authentication..
>
>
>
> I have had very good luck with Win9x clients and
> dialup.  There are a
> couple of things that you need to look at.  First is
> to make sure that the
> Logon to Network option is checked on the DialUp
> Connectoid.  Second is to
> make sure your WINS servers are hard coded on the
> system.  There is
> supposed to be a way to have the WINS servers
> downloaded and used as part
> of the Site information but I have not been able to
> get that to work.
> Usually, manually adding the WINS servers to the
> dialup adapter is
> sufficient but on rare occasions they need to be
> added to the DialUp
> Connectoid.
>
> Keith White
>
>
>
>
>                     "Jarmoc, Jeff"
>
>                     <[email protected]>
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>                     of Firewall-1
>            Subject:
> [FW-1] SecureRemote/SecureClient on win9x w/ NT
>
> <[email protected]
> authentication..
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>                     11/20/01 10:41 AM
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>                     discussion of Firewall-1
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>
> My company has been experiencing some problems with
> SecureRemote/SecureClient running on win9x clients.
> Over the past few
> months, we've been rolling out Firewall-1, and we're
> at the stage in the
> game where we want to start using Secure Remote.
> However, we've
> encountered a pretty serious problem.  It seems to
> work fine on WinNT/2000
> clients, but on 95, 98, Me, etc.. we're having quite
> a bit of trouble.
>
> The problem is this.  A user who dials up to their
> ISP, can connect and
> successfully authenticate to the firewall via
> secureremote.  However, this
> only gives them an IP level connection.  What we
> need is for them to be
> able to log on to our NT domain, so they can access
> file servers, Exchange
> and SQL applications, etc.  NT and 2000 clients
> don't appear to have any
> trouble, presumably because of these OS's ability to
> cache credentials and
> other security differences.  Also, 95 and 98 users
> who are on cable, DSL,
> or other always-on internet connections don't appear
> to have any problem.
> I'm assuming the problem lies in the fact that the
> users need to first
> authenticate to their ISP, then authenticate to our
> domain.  Apparently 9x
> doesn't like this process.
>
> Has anyone successfully gotten this to work with 95
> and/or 98?  Our
> reseller has been less than helpful, and checkpoint
> themselves have been of
> little help so I'm really hoping someone out there
> can help me with this.
> Secure Remote is one of the biggest reasons we
> bought this product, and our
> difficulties in getting it working have not been
> received well by
> management, nor have our reseller's lack of follow
> through on helping with
> these problems.  It's to the point where it'll be a
> tough sell to keep
> Checkpoint in place if this isn't resolved soon.
> I've tried the usual
> resources - Phoneboy.com, Nokia's web site,
> Checkpoint and Reseller
> support, so my posting here is really a last effort.
>
> Our firewalls are Nokia IP 650s, running IPSO 3.4.1
> and Firewall-1 SP3.
> We've tried every available secureremote build with
> the same result.  If
> anyone wants any further information I'd be more
> than happy to provide it.
>
> Thanks in advance for your assistance.
>
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