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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry
This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004955F200256AE9_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have received several replies on this - thanks to all - at least I've tried pretty much everything now. For the record I have surrendered on this one - nothing seems to work so I either bin the 3COM 3C920s or 3COM Switches (or both !) :-( Cisco/Intel here I come..... ;-) 3COM and Dell were really helpful as usual ;-) Tim "Crist, Glenn" <[email protected]> 18/10/2001 11:42 To: [email protected] cc: Subject: RE: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry Tim, The 3Com I have is an older "SuperStack II Switch". The management interface is a text based menu. The menu follows: SWITCH MANAGEMENT Management Level: `Unit` SETUP Spanning Tree: `Disable` The earlier suggestion about using fixed speed and duplex settings at the computer NIC is a very good idea. Good luck, -- Glenn Crist 330 - 659 - 1705 Sr. Network/Systems Engineer Bell & Howell Publishing Services (a subsidiary of ProQuest Company) 3900 Kinross Lakes Parkway Richfield, OH 44286-9381 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:22 AM To: Crist, Glenn Subject: RE: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry Glenn Thanks - probably stupid question but how did you disable - I thought I had tried that but want to check which box/settings. Thanks Tim "Crist, Glenn" <[email protected]> 17/10/2001 15:43 To: [email protected] cc: Subject: RE: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry Tim, I had to completely disable spanning tree on the 3com LinkSwitch II's (and most other switches) to have ms windows 95 work. I had found that 95 tends to bounce the NIC several times while booting - causing many spanning tree starts - then timing out very quickly on the DHCP request. Hope that helps. -- Glenn Crist 330 - 659 - 1705 Sr. Network/Systems Engineer Bell & Howell Publishing Services (a subsidiary of ProQuest Company) 3900 Kinross Lakes Parkway Richfield, OH 44286-9381 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry Erik I have used that technique before for some troublesome HP Unix workstations in the past but it didn't work for this problem. Thanks though for the suggestion (copied to list in case anyone else wondering if I didn't try that - sorry again...(sheepish)...) Cheers Tim "Goldoff, Erik" <[email protected]> 17/10/01 15:49 To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> cc: Subject: RE: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry didn't say in your post, but if the Win95 stations' NICs are set to auto-speed/auto-duplex, set them manually instead to match what you want on the switch. ie... 100mps/half-duplex on the NIC, etc.. Erik Goldoff Systems Manager The HoneyBaked Ham [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry Hi Sorry for this email but I am not getting anywhere from other sources - please email me directly if you have any ideas rather than clutter up the list ;-) ...Have new laptops/docking stations - Dell Latitude C600 with C/Port II dock stations (contains 3COM 3C920 net card). C600 running Windows 95. These machines had problems getting DHCP addresses - it would eventually pick it up but too late from the users' point of view because they didn;t get a network login screen presented at boot-up. Dell didn't help and didn't want to know (surprised - NOT!). Found a work around on our Cisco 3548 switches - turn on Port Fast mode. However can't find a workaround on the our 3COM Superstack II 10Mb switches - tried what I thought might be equivalent - Fast Start Mode but this has no effect. Couldn't find fix on web and 3COM aren't being helpful as the NICs are Dell OEM (arghhhhh!!). Curiously the C600s with Win2k are fine - looks related to Win 95 but we are not quite ready to fully rollout Win2k yet....... Any ideas anyone ? p.s. Before I get the suggestion - yes upgrading to Win2k and/or all Cisco switches would be nice but not likely until next year.... ;-) TIA Tim #********************************************************************** This message is intended solely for the use of the individual or organisation to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not use, copy, alter, or disclose the contents of this message. 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Hughes Network Systems Limited, including its European subsidiaries and affiliates accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from its use, including damage from virus. #********************************************************************** --=_alternative 004955F200256AE9_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have received several replies on this - thanks to all - at least I've tried pretty much everything now.</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">For the record I have surrendered on this one - nothing seems to work so I either bin the 3COM 3C920s or 3COM Switches (or both !) :-(</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Cisco/Intel here I come..... ;-)</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">3COM and Dell were really helpful as usual ;-)</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Tim</font> <br> <br> <br> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"Crist, Glenn" <[email protected]></b></font> <p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">18/10/2001 11:42</font> <br> <td><font size=1 face="Arial"> </font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> To: [email protected]</font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> cc: </font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> Subject: RE: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry</font></table> <br> <br> <br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Tim,<br> <br> The 3Com I have is an older "SuperStack II Switch". The management<br> interface is a text based menu.<br> The menu follows:<br> SWITCH MANAGEMENT<br> Management Level: `Unit`<br> SETUP<br> Spanning Tree: `Disable`<br> <br> The earlier suggestion about using fixed speed and duplex settings at<br> the computer NIC is a<br> very good idea.<br> <br> Good luck,<br> --<br> Glenn Crist 330 -<br> 659 - 1705<br> Sr. Network/Systems Engineer<br> Bell & Howell Publishing Services<br> (a subsidiary of ProQuest Company) <br> 3900 Kinross Lakes Parkway<br> Richfield, OH 44286-9381 <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]<br> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:22 AM<br> To: Crist, Glenn<br> Subject: RE: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry<br> <br> <br> <br> Glenn <br> <br> Thanks - probably stupid question but how did you disable - I thought I had<br> tried that but want to check which box/settings. <br> <br> <br> Thanks <br> <br> <br> Tim <br> <br> <br> <br> "Crist, Glenn" <[email protected]> <br> <br> <br> 17/10/2001 15:43 <br> <br> <br> <br> To: [email protected] <br> cc: <br> Subject: RE: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry<br> <br> <br> <br> Tim,<br> <br> I had to completely disable spanning tree on the 3com LinkSwitch II's<br> (and most other switches) to have ms windows 95 work. I had found that 95<br> tends to bounce the NIC several times while booting - causing many spanning<br> tree starts - then timing out very quickly on the DHCP request.<br> Hope that helps.<br> --<br> Glenn Crist 330 -<br> 659 - 1705<br> Sr. Network/Systems Engineer<br> Bell & Howell Publishing Services<br> (a subsidiary of ProQuest Company) <br> 3900 Kinross Lakes Parkway<br> Richfield, OH 44286-9381 <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]<br> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:00 AM<br> To: [email protected]<br> Subject: Re: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry<br> <br> <br> <br> Erik <br> <br> I have used that technique before for some troublesome HP Unix workstations<br> in the past but it didn't work for this problem. <br> <br> Thanks though for the suggestion (copied to list in case anyone else<br> wondering if I didn't try that - sorry again...(sheepish)...) <br> <br> Cheers <br> <br> Tim <br> <br> <br> <br> "Goldoff, Erik" <[email protected]> <br> <br> <br> 17/10/01 15:49 <br> <br> <br> <br> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> <br> cc: <br> Subject: RE: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry<br> <br> <br> didn't say in your post, but if the Win95 stations' NICs are set to<br> auto-speed/auto-duplex, set them manually instead to match what you want on<br> the switch. <br> ie... 100mps/half-duplex on the NIC, etc..<br> <br> <br> Erik Goldoff <br> Systems Manager <br> The HoneyBaked Ham Company <br><br> [email protected] <br> <br> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]<br> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:40 AM<br> To: [email protected]<br> Subject: [FW-1] VERY Off Topic - Sorry<br> <br> <br> <br> Hi <br> <br> Sorry for this email but I am not getting anywhere from other sources -<br> please email me directly if you have any ideas rather than clutter up the<br> list ;-) <br> <br> ...Have new laptops/docking stations - Dell Latitude C600 with C/Port II<br> dock stations (contains 3COM 3C920 net card). C600 running Windows 95. These<br> machines had problems getting DHCP addresses - it would eventually pick it<br> up but too late from the users' point of view because they didn;t get a<br> network login screen presented at boot-up. <br> <br> Dell didn't help and didn't want to know (surprised - NOT!). <br> <br> Found a work around on our Cisco 3548 switches - turn on Port Fast mode. <br> <br> However can't find a workaround on the our 3COM Superstack II 10Mb switches<br> - tried what I thought might be equivalent - Fast Start Mode but this has no<br> effect. Couldn't find fix on web and 3COM aren't being helpful as the NICs<br> are Dell OEM (arghhhhh!!). <br> <br> Curiously the C600s with Win2k are fine - looks related to Win 95 but we are<br> not quite ready to fully rollout Win2k yet....... <br> <br> <br> Any ideas anyone ? <br> <br> <br> p.s. 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