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Re: [FW-1] websense versus surfcontrol



In my set-up I have the following rules base.


        Directors@Any           Any-Website             Accept
        Any                     Webesense-X-List        Deny
        Techs@Any               Any-Website             Accept
        Any                     Webense-Hackingsites    Deny
        Marketing@Any           Any-Webiste             Accept
        Any                     Websense-Gambling/Alcohol Deny


                .....  etc

        Therefore under the current version 4 I can 't achive the same
flexible web browsing policy within our company.


        Regards
        PD


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hubbard, Dan [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:06 AM
> To:   [email protected]
> Subject:      Re: [FW-1] websense versus surfcontrol
>
> ***** This message originated from outside the AA *****
>
>
>
> Peter;
>
> Could you please expand as to what you mean by "its is not as feature ric
> to install as a UFP product" ? We have many more features in our 4.x
> product than 3.x. Among them: LDAP support, UFP caching, NG support, NTLM,
> transparent ID.....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dickson, Peter
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: 10/10/01 4:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] websense versus surfcontrol
>
> We ran websense 3.11 using UFP , but since version 4 of Websense it is
> not
> as feature rich to install as a UFP product.
> Checkpoint security server can be slow , I have ended up running several
> copies of this.
> 3.11 is very stable I takes non or little administration.
> My set-up is
>
>         User Authentication to f/w using radius/ secure-id
>         rules base set-up on a user bases to allow different access (
> can't
> do this in version 4 )
>         Fw-1 proxy chains onto another proxy for caching and virus
> checking.
>
>
>         Regards
>
>         PD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lars Troen [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:20 AM
> > To:   [email protected]
> > Subject:      Re: [FW-1] websense versus surfcontrol
> >
> > ***** This message originated from outside the AA *****
> >
> > Daniel,
> > It's best to do this on the proxy. There are several
> performance/stability
> > issues when using it with firewall-1 UFP. WebSense is a nice product
> and
> > can
> > be used along with MS Proxy Server/MS ISA Server. I haven't used
> > SurfControl
> > tho, but I believe their url database is much smaller than websense's.
> >
> > Lars
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
> > > [ <mailto:[email protected]>]On Behalf Of
> Daniel
> > > Morone
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 16:12
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [FW-1] websense versus surfcontrol
> > >
> > >
> > > I can't find an objective comparision between WebSense and
> > > SurfControl.   Could you please share your experience good or bad
> > > with either of these products as a UFP server?   Also, anybody
> > > done this with HA?
> > >
> > > We currently implement a filter at our proxy server and are
> > > interested in moving to the firewall/UFP.   It appears the top
> > > two contenders are WebSense and SurfControl.   We may continue
> > > doing reporting off the proxy logs as that's where authentication
> > occurs.
> > >
> > > Looking for comments about:
> > > - list quality
> > > - administration
> > > - performance
> > > - stability
> > > - support
> > >
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