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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [FW-1] [FW1] Firewall-1 and use in Arab countries
This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00466C2580256AE2_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes - I had the impression that most problems were not with banned selling but banned/reluctant BUYING in certain Arabian states. Probably see buying CP as supporting Israeli occupation of parts of Jordan, Syria etc. Plus they are unsure whether CP/governments have created 'backdoors' for surveillance - seems a little paranoid here but who knows..... Tim Darrin Johansen <[email protected]> Sent by: [email protected] 01/10/01 16:45 To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>, Darrin Johansen <[email protected]> cc: Allan Pratt <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: RE: [FW1] Firewall-1 and use in Arab countries Ok then, I believe you. There appears to be some/strong opposition to using Checkpoint in the UAE given it's country of origin, and if I was a pitching solution for sale there I would include different options with the likes of Gauntlet etc The impression I gained was that not many companies in the UAE would consider using Checkpoint - maybe they might even be upset if you offered it as a solution? -----Original Message----- From: CryptoTech [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 October 2001 16:15 To: Darrin Johansen Cc: Allan Pratt; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FW1] Firewall-1 and use in Arab countries Darrin, There are no regulations concerning export to the United Arab Emirates, except for such organizations explicitly banned by the U.S. Treasury department, or the Commerce Department. The 'evil 9' designation, includes: 1.Cuba 2.Iraq 3.Libya 4.Taliban controlled Afghanistan 5.North Korea 6.Iran 7.Syria 8.Serbia 9.Sudan Cheers, CryptoTech http://w3.access.gpo.gov/bxa/fedreg/ear_fedreg00.html#65fr62600 http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/ http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2000_register&docid=fr19oc00-5.pdf Darrin Johansen wrote: I'm pretty sure you could add the UAE to that list?I was on a firewall (not FW-1) course with two guys from there and they said FW-1 wasn't an option in the UAE.Best check, I might be remembering incorrectly....... -----Original Message----- From: CryptoTech [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 September 2001 21:50 To: Allan Pratt Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FW1] Firewall-1 and use in Arab countries Allan, There are currently only 9 countries in which firewall-1 cannot be sold. I have had knowledge of many arab organizations purchasing firewall-1, with no concern for the writers race. Lets face it, Israel and US go pretty much hand-in-hand as far as Anti-Semitic arabs are concerned. Do not recommend to Libya, syria, lebanon, iraq, afganistan, iran, cuba. Cheers, CryptoTech Allan Pratt wrote: Hi, Since Firewall-1 is made by an Israeli company, does anyone have experience recommending its use in Arab countries and for Arab clients? The reason I ask is that I will be on a security architecture project for an Arab bank based in the middle east. Should I refrain from recommending Firewall-1?? Thanks! <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Allan Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ================================================================================ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the instructions at http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html ================================================================================ #********************************************************************** This message is intended solely for the use of the individual or organisation to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not use, copy, alter, or disclose the contents of this message. All information or opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and are not necessarily those of Hughes Network Systems Limited, including its European subsidiaries and affiliates. Hughes Network Systems Limited, including its European subsidiaries and affiliates accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from its use, including damage from virus. #********************************************************************** --=_alternative 00466C2580256AE2_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Yes - I had the impression that most problems were not with banned selling but banned/reluctant BUYING in certain Arabian states. Probably see buying CP as supporting Israeli occupation of parts of Jordan, Syria etc. Plus they are unsure whether CP/governments have created 'backdoors' for surveillance - seems a little paranoid here but who knows.....</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Tim</font> <br> <br> <br> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>Darrin Johansen <[email protected]></b></font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: [email protected]</font> <p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">01/10/01 16:45</font> <br> <td><font size=1 face="Arial"> </font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>, Darrin Johansen <[email protected]></font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> cc: Allan Pratt <[email protected]>, [email protected]</font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> Subject: RE: [FW1] Firewall-1 and use in Arab countries</font></table> <br> <br> <br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Ok then, I believe you.</font> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">There appears to be some/strong opposition to using Checkpoint in the UAE given it's country of origin, and if I was a pitching solution for sale there I would include different options with the likes of Gauntlet etc</font> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">The impression I gained was that not many companies in the UAE would consider using Checkpoint - maybe they might even be upset if you offered it as a solution?</font> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <br><font size=2 face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<b><br> From:</b> CryptoTech [mailto:[email protected]]<b><br> Sent:</b> 01 October 2001 16:15<b><br> To:</b> Darrin Johansen<b><br> Cc:</b> Allan Pratt; [email protected]<b><br> Subject:</b> Re: [FW1] Firewall-1 and use in Arab countries<br> </font> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Darrin, <br> There are no regulations concerning export to the United Arab Emirates, except for such organizations explicitly banned by the U.S. Treasury department, or the Commerce Department. </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> The 'evil 9' designation, includes: </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">1.Cuba <br> 2.Iraq <br> 3.Libya <br> 4.Taliban controlled Afghanistan <br> 5.North Korea <br> 6.Iran <br> 7.Syria <br> 8.Serbia <br> 9.Sudan </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Cheers, <br> CryptoTech </font><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href=http://w3.access.gpo.gov/bxa/fedreg/ear_fedreg00.html#65fr62600><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>http://w3.access.gpo.gov/bxa/fedreg/ear_fedreg00.html#65fr62600</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/useftp.cgi?IPaddress=162.140.64.45&filename=740.wais&directory=/diskb/wais/data/bxa";><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">/ <br> </font><a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2000_register&docid=fr19oc00-5.pdf";><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2000_register&docid=fr19oc00-5.pdf</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Darrin Johansen wrote: </font> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">I'm pretty sure you could add the UAE to that list?I was on a firewall (not FW-1) course with two guys from there and they said FW-1 wasn't an option in the UAE.Best check, I might be remembering incorrectly.......</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <br><font size=2 face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b><br> From:</b> CryptoTech [</font><a href=mailto:[email protected]><font size=2 color=blue face="Tahoma"><u>mailto:[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Tahoma">]</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b><br> Sent:</b> 30 September 2001 21:50</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b><br> To:</b> Allan Pratt</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b><br> Cc:</b> [email protected]</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b><br> Subject:</b> Re: [FW1] Firewall-1 and use in Arab countries</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br> </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Allan, <br> There are currently only 9 countries in which firewall-1 cannot be sold. I have had knowledge of many arab organizations purchasing firewall-1, with no concern for the writers race. Lets face it, Israel and US go pretty much hand-in-hand as far as Anti-Semitic arabs are concerned. </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Do not recommend to Libya, syria, lebanon, iraq, afganistan, iran, cuba. </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Cheers, <br> CryptoTech </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Allan Pratt wrote: </font> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Hi,</font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Since Firewall-1 is made by an Israeli company, does anyone have experience recommending its use in Arab countries and for Arab clients?</font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">The reason I ask is that I will be on a security architecture project for an Arab bank based in the middle east. </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Should I refrain from recommending Firewall-1?? </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Thanks! </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "</font><a href="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">" /> </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Allan </font> <p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br> </font> <hr><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at </font><a href=http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>http://explorer.msn.com</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br> ================================================================================ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the instructions at </font><a href=http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u>http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> ================================================================================</font> <p> <p><CODE><FONT SIZE=3><BR> <BR> #**********************************************************************<BR> This message is intended solely for the use of the individual<BR> or organisation to whom it is addressed. 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