Re: [FW1] RE: Nokia/Check Point/SolutionPaq

["Firewall Admin" <firewall.admin@FW1-NOSPAMbtinternet.com>]

The max is actually five 10/100 interfaces. You purchase an dual card to
expand the platform.

Sorry.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Security Engineer" <juanconcepcion@earthlink.net>
To: "Mark Decker" <mdecker@rainfinity.com>
Cc: <fw-1-mailinglist@beethoven.us.checkpoint.com>;
<fw1-wizards@phoneboy.com>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FW1] RE: Nokia/Check Point/SolutionPaq


>
> Just one small correction.  You can optionally install an additional quad
> card on the IP330 which gives you a total of 7 not a limitation of 3 nics.
> Just my .02 cents since I work with them day in and day out :0)
> --
> Juan Concepcion
> Network Security Consultant
> juanconcepcion@earthlink.net
>
> On 2001.07.18 14:56 Mark Decker wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Costomiris
> > >Let's see, each vendor realized that they were much better at selling
> > >their own products than the other guy's stuff, so they fixed it.  Yeah,
> > >that sounds terrible.  Wake up.  You forgot to mention that Nokia and
> > >CP signed a 2-year agreement when the last agreement expired.  As a
> > >rule, CP never signs anything longer than one year.
> >
> > I don't understand the defensive tone of your reply.  It would appear
> > you somehow misinterpreted my comments as a slam against Nokia, which
> > they are certainly not intended to be.  Nokia makes fine products, and
> > is still a partner of CP.  I was merely trying to dispel rumors of a
> > "war" between the companies and make a statement of the facts of the
> > current relationship.  As I understand it, although Nokia and CP may
> > have signed another agreement, the terms are different and the new
> > agreement does not provide an exclusive distribution arrangement for
> > FW-1/VPN-1 appliances similar to what they had in the past.  I won't
> > speculate on the reasons for this change in the relationship, since I
> > wasn't at the contract negotiations. ;-)  Regardless of their reasons
> > for doing so, CP has now opened up the CP-based appliance market and
> > leveled the playing field for other vendors through its OPSEC appliance
> > program.  In my mind, that's a positive thing.  While Nokia is good,
> > having a choice is better.
> >
> > >A lot of competition?  From Compaq?  A Compaq pre-sales engineer shared
> > >with me that a packed-out DL320 (what they sell as the SolutionPaq)
> > >does about 90 Mbps in FW1 performance tests.  It only costs about 15%
> > less
> > >than an IP330, but with the IP330 testing at 130 Mbps is nearly 50%
> > >faster than the DL320.  Oh by the way, the DL320 has a 1Ghz P-III to
> > >match up against then AMD K6-2/400...
> >
> > Our internal testing results show the Compaq box does better than you
> > describe vs. the IP330.  We found that a base DL320 SolutionPaq has much
> > faster throughput than the base IP330 in identical environments.  (BTW,
> > you can put up to 2G of RAM in the SolutionPaq, and up to 6 NICs, while
> > the IP330 is a fixed config with 256MB RAM and 3 NICs.)  With FLOWS
> > enabled on the Nokia, the Nokia throughput goes up significantly, but I
> > understand there are still a few drawbacks to using FLOWS (admittedly,
> > not my area of expertise, so forgive me if I've overstated the FLOWS
> > issue; perhaps someone else can elaborate).  Personally, I'd like to see
> > an independent magazine do an apples-to-apples benchmark test of
> > similarly configured DL320 vs IP330, and then see how they fare.  In any
> > case, the vast majority of IP330s serve T3 circuits or smaller, so it
> > hardly matters as long as they can both do >45Mbps.  People with an OC-3
> > are likely buying a bigger box anyway.
> >
> > As far as price goes, the base IP330 lists at $4,950, while the base
> > DL320 SolutionPaq lists at $3,249.  I'm no math whiz, but I believe
> > that's more than 1/3 less expensive, rather than only 15%.  If buying
> > 100 units for all your branch offices, that's a recession-friendly
> > savings of over $170,000. :-)
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Mark L. Decker
> > Rainfinity - High Availability for E-Business
> >> > mdecker@rainfinity.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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