RE: [FW1] Licensing FW1

["Reed Mohn, Anders" <Anders.Reed.Mohn@FW1-NOSPAMitcompagniet.no>]

You are forgetting a very important point:
 
The firewall is _not_ there to provide access to the internet for
a certain number of hosts.
 
The firewall is there to prevent an intruder from accessing _any_ node
on your network through your network connection.
 
Thus, even if only 10 of your nodes use the internet connection,
the rest of the nodes on that network, including routers, switches, 
anything that can accept a TCP/IP connection, and that are potentially 
accessible through that internet connection, still need protection.
 
Cheers,
Anders :)
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Skeeve Stevens [mailto:skeeve@skeeve.org]
Sent: 29. mai 2001 15:12
To: fw-1-mailinglist@beethoven.us.checkpoint.com
<mailto:fw-1-mailinglist@beethoven.us.checkpoint.com> 
Subject: [FW1] Licensing FW1




I have been discussing with a couple of resellers and tonight talked to the
product manager for this region.. And I am still confused as to why or how
CPFW1 licensing works.

Apparently it is my the number of ip addresses that the FW is protecting. In
my opinion that is stupid. 

We have about 50 sites, coming in via ISDN to our core router... some of
these sites have up to 50 people.. some of them only 1 or 2 people.

Overall we would have in use, about 400 workstations, 60 servers, about 50
print servers, some 50 ciscos and also 150 hubs/switches with ip addresses.
Quite a lot...

Our HQ is 10.0.x.x and each site is 10.1.x.x and 10.2.x.x and so on... yeah
limit to 255 networks, but hey, works for us. 

Of all these connected devices, maybe 150 workstations and a few servers
will be using the Internet for ANY reason. Most, like HP printers with an ip
address, don't go anywhere near the internet or firewall.

We have a simple setup 

                          Servers 
Site or PC \             | 
Site or PC ----- core router ----- ms proxy server ----- cisco ----- isdn to
internet 
Site or PC / 

We want to nuke ms proxy, stick in a firewall, and perhaps stick a proxy
appliance on the internal network. 

But I apparently have to pay for an unlimited enterprise licence because we
have so many ip's being used around the network.

It is not exactly a complex setup, and I don't see we should have to pay for
that many ip's that are not going to be accessed or going near the firewall.

Anyone had problems with this before? Or understand ways around this
problem? 



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