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Re: [FW1] Managing a lot of firewalls



Greg,

Sorry I missed the followup message.

I still don't think you should run Provider despite others
suggestions because of the high cost. If you can afford it,
great, but not many can.

To see how to replicate your objects over to multiple servers, do
a search at http://www.phoneboy.com for "exporting firwall
objects". You can also check the downloads section as they have
a script that will dump the objects.c file into a more readable
format.

As per replicating your rulebase over. I don't even know if it's
possible. I've never tried. My recommendation was to copy the
objects.c file over so you don't have to recreate the objects on
each management server. If you only have one management server
this isn't necessary. Given the amount of firewalls you want to
manage I'd definately advise you to go with at least a couple
management servers located in different areas geographically for
redundancy. The pain is you would have to replicate the objects.c
file any time you made a change to the objects. Either that or
remember to make changes to all management servers anytime there
is a change made.

I'll agree with Aylton. It's definately a pain in the butt. I
just don't know any other way to do it. A lot of this depends on
your situation. If your not making a lot of firewall changes and
your network topology doesn't change often, this might be the
easiest solution for you. Frequent changes could be more of a
headache than your willing to deal with and you might be better
off trying to get all your firewalls to run on one management
server or getting the exec's to drop the cash for Provider-1.

Regards,
Jason Stout



------Original Message------
From: "Aylton Souza, CISSP" <[email protected]>
To: Jason Stout <[email protected]>, Greg Winkler
<[email protected]>
Sent: April 25, 2001 4:57:13 AM GMT
Subject: Re: [FW1] Managing a lot of firewalls


Guys,

I have been through this before and my suggestion is: Don't do that unless
you have a full unlimited license for aspirins and coffee. :)

Best wishes

Aylton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Winkler" <[email protected]>
To: "Jason Stout" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: [FW1] Managing a lot of firewalls


>
>
> Jason,
>
> Could you elaborate on the suggestion to replicate the objects.c file
> around? If I get the gist of what you suggest I would have one objects.c
> file with all my network objects defined in it and have to manually move
it
> between several management stations? I would assume that I'd have to do
the
> same with my rulebase as well. Scares the hell out of me!
>
>
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> Greg Winkler
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> Huntsman Corporation
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>                     Jason Stout <[email protected]>
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Subject:     RE: [FW1] Managing a lot of firewalls
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>                     04/21/2001 02:12 AM
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>
>
>
> With Provider each management client will have thier own objects.
> Your essentially giving each customer or access point in your
> case, thier own management stations. I don't think this would be
> a good solution for what your looking to do.
>
> I'd suggest running all your firewalls on a couple of management
> servers and replicate the objects.c to the other management
> servers.
>
> -jason
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Greg Winkler" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: April 20, 2001 7:27:20 PM GMT
> Subject: [FW1] Managing a lot of firewalls
>
>
>
> A suggestion has been made that we move to an Internet access model that
> involves firewalls and ISP connection points at many of our locations,
> mostly in Europe. Can't give you an exact number but I would guess we are
> talking about 30 or so firewalls.
>
> How would one manage so many? Right now we've got only 4 and management
is
> fairly simple using and Enterprise license. Can a single management
station
> manage 30 plus firewalls. I would expect probably not. What are the
> options? I've heard of Provider-1, would that allow me to "manage"
multiple
> management stations such that I would still only have one set of network
> objects and rulebase to maintain? Does it work well?
>
>
>
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