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RE: [FW1] CCSA



If I may, and I do realize that this is very off topic....
 
The CCIE test is two parts; a two day written and a two day lab.  I can see somebody being able to cram for the written, but for the lab, there has to be a geed deal of hands-on experience.  CCNA, CCNP, CCDA and CCDP are all good examples of tests you can take with just book knowledge, but the CCIE takes actual experience.
 
My $.02
 

Steve Schuster, CCSE, CCNA
Midwest ISO
Security Analyst

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:52 AM
To: Ashleigh Martin
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; Yusrin Mulia
Subject: RE: [FW1] CCSA

Yes I do know some people who are excellent in their field and extrememly bright. On the other hand when I see people asking for cram sessions for their CCIE and then a week later they post to the list that they just got both CCNA and CCIE in a week that makes me laugh.

Rocky Stefano
Echelon Systems Inc.
[email protected]
www.echelonsystems.com
Systems that work...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ashleigh Martin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:44 AM
To: Rocky Stefano
Cc: Ashleigh Martin; [email protected];
[email protected]; Yusrin Mulia
Subject: RE: [FW1] CCSA



I agree with you on the netware/msce but I find it hard to believe there
are "paper" CCIE's!!

You're right, but I'd like to think there are people out there with "real"
knowledge and skill..



Ashleigh Martin
Senior Systems Engineer
Data#3 Group Pty Ltd
Ph: +61 3 9864 2000
Fx: +61 3 9864 2099
mailto: [email protected]
Web Site: http://www.data3.com.au


                                                                                                                        
                    "Rocky Stefano"                                                                                     
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                    stems.com>                 <[email protected]>                                                       
                                               cc:     <[email protected]>,                      
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                                               Subject:     RE: [FW1] CCSA                                              
                                                                                                                        



What happened to Netware's certs is no less valid then whats happening to
the industry in general. Do you know how many paper MCSE's are out there?
Not to mention CCIE's? Anyone get memory cram for a night.



Rocky Stefano
Echelon Systems Inc.
[email protected]
www.echelonsystems.com
Systems that work...

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
Ashleigh Martin
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 2:00 AM
To: Yusrin Mulia
Cc: [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW1] CCSA




I'm sick of seeing people post requests to this forum asking for links to
"braindumps" or wanting help to aid them in passing certification exams.
What happened to reading, studying and generally KNOWING your stuff.  If
these people studied and read the material/documentation available on the
internet or in bookstores, then there would be no reason to need braindumps
or exam shortcuts - the exams are not to prove how well you can pass an
exam, but to make sure you are capable of supporting and understanding
their technology/product.

Look at what has happened to the credibility of a certain certifcation from
a well know software company ......

I would prefer to see this forum used as I'm guessing it was created for -
a coming together and resource of knowledge so that undocumented or
difficult issues relating to the implementation of Checkpoint's Security
products could be better understood.






                    Yusrin Mulia <[email protected]>

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[FW1] CCSA


                    28/02/2001 09:14 PM







Hi all,
what material we need to learn to pass CCSA ?

Does anybody got good links to study or braindump ?

thanks

Yusrin

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