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RE: [FW1] Unbaised Firewall-1 vs Pix Reviews ??



Not knowing IPF..........

How does ipf etc handle services like oracle8 or netmeeting, secureremote
equivilent, OSPEC third party equivilents?
Price is never $0, can you say your time spent on each is equal, now that
you know both?
Which took longer for you to learn?
What was your background in O/S's?
What is your companies infrastructure like would either of them fit in
better from a support or maintanence perspective?

I do not expect you to answer any of these questions, just pointing out that
the $10,000 question is not one that can be resolved by a simple answer.

Each site where a firewall is installed has it own issues and needs and the
$10k may well be soaked up (an then some) by lack of foresight and planning
with regard to the bigger picture or the need to hire additional resources
to manage the firewall effectively.

regards
Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 9 February 2001 2:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW1] Unbaised Firewall-1 vs Pix Reviews ??



On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Jason Costomiris wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 03:08:41PM -0500, [email protected] wrote:
> : Can onyone tell me why I would pay BIG money for the checkpoint
> : license?  When I could put that money towards a load balancing
> : switch?(which alot of ppl do anyway!)  
> 
> It's not THAT big of a bill.  Compared with the cost of lost business and
> lost confidential information, even the unlimited version is cheap.

Granted.  But $10,000 compared to $0?  I have never done an install with a
limited license and so I don't know pricing on that....  In the situations
I have had to deal with it makes more sense to have two people that know
the product (two admins are needed, at minimum for sanity checks) which
would make your point below moot.

AND! by your own arguement, are knowledgeable checkpoint engineers THAT
easy to come by?  Heck, I'm dealing with an SE from Checkpoint right now
that doesn't know.... much... atleast about CheckPoint Firewall-1

> 
> : And before anyone mentions this, I ackowledge that the TCO for a free
> : firewall is higher, but then again, should you have a firewall admin who
> : is capable enough to do this?
> 
> Can you absolutely count on that one person to remain in your company's 
> employ forever?  Arguing that you should have someone proficient in 
> netfilter||ipf has a hole in it about the size of your average 18-wheeler.
> Suppose the person leaves, who can you call for help in your hour of need
> until you get your next guru?  Maybe you've got someone, maybe you don't.
> You need to evaluate how much risk you're willing to take.
> 
> 

-- 
--Paul



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