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RE: [FW1] PIX vs. CheckPoint




Technically PIX is a better firewall solution as it does not inherit any
underlying OS weakness, however it is much more complex to configure and the
reporting is not as good.

FW-1 is my preferred solution, I would rather have a slightly weaker
firewall which is configured correctly than a very strong firewall which is
misconfigured. The important thing to keep in mind with Checkpoint is the
platform it is run on and as an MCSE I definitely recommend NOT NT.

But what do I know ?


Andrew Shore
BTcd 
Information Systems Engineering
Internet & Multimedia 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 17 January 2001 02:18
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [FW1] PIX vs. CheckPoint



coke vs. pepsi?

ford vs. chevy? (i'd rather push my FW1 than drive a pix!)

I think FW-1 is a much better choice, myself. But i also manage 15+ FW-1s
around the world, and not a single PIX. It's just a matter of preference, i
think. Each has their own benefits, and weaknesses. 

But, I will say that document is a bunch of one-sided crap. Consider the
source: a Cisco Study Group.

Just my $0.02.....

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Cunningham [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [FW1] PIX vs. CheckPoint



It is probably fairly similar to NT vs Unix "discussions" that go on in this
forum.
It comes down to "run what you know" and "run what you need for your
business requirements"

The doument quoted is old and has been inconsitantly updated. It is more of
a brain dump of soemone who knows PIX and had fw1 on eval for a couple of
days. I could probably create a similar document to the same unbiased
standard if someone could loan me a PIX box for a day or two. The result
would be a document on how bad PIX was and how FW1 fixes those problems

Documentation section is rubbish, I have always receive a full set of
manuals. with FW2000 one small manual and I assume online or on CD
documentation

my personal opinion of course.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Brown [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2001 12:04 PM
To: 'Frank Darden'; Jim Brown; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [FW1] PIX vs. CheckPoint




I guess it is not very clear from my original post that I am a CheckPoint
bigot as well. 

It becomes tiresome defending the product against biased, one-sided views.

I injected my comments into the thread on the other list several times, but
it becomes very frustrating when individuals highlight issues with a product
that are theoretically nonexistent if you understand it or know how to use
it.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Darden [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:40 PM
To: 'Jim Brown'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [FW1] PIX vs. CheckPoint


After reading this it is clear the reviewer has not done his homework. This
is why I HATE so many product reviews, the reviewer does not put forth the
effort to properly review the products. Unfortunately, many people take
these reviews as fact. In the case of this review, there are severe flaws,
pointless points, and generally wrong statements.. We do in house testing
for theis very reason. Dont believe everything you read. I could pick this
thing apart line by line, and I might if I get some time. True, I am a FW-1
bigot, but I am not neccesarily religious about anything. CP has its flaws,
suprisingly I did not really see any of them listed here..

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Brown [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FW1] PIX vs. CheckPoint




This document was posted in the Cisco Study group. It was inferred this was
an unbiased objective view.

I would be interested in this groups comments.


http://www.roble.com/docs/fw1_or_pix.html


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