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Re: [FW1] Accept Outgoing Packets



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Thanks Lance... your site has been a wealth of useful information for me,
and I really like the new "Attack of the Week" thing you are doing.

Thank you


Carric Dooley
Senior Consultant
COM2:Interactive Media

"But this one goes to eleven."
- -- Nigel Tufnel


On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Lance Spitzner wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Carric Dooley wrote:
> 
> > Anyone know the reasoning behind why this is recommended to be set to
> > "Before Last" in the policy properties?  I am working with a FW with that
> > property set to first (and have seen it before) and I can't come up with a
> > good explanation to change it (nor can I find one with all my web ferret
> > diggings).
> 
> Organizations may want to filter outbound packets as well as inbound.
> If the "Accept Outgoing" is placed first, then that rule takes priority,
> meaning the organization cannot filter outbound rules.  Now, you are
> problably asking yourself why would I want to inspect a packet outbound
> if I already inspected it inbound?  The firewall for one.  If the firewall
> initiates a connection, you can only filter it outbound.  You would be 
> amazed at the information your firewall gives away with ICMP error
> messages alone.  For details on this, check out the paper I just updated,
> Auditing Your Firewall Rulebase (http://www.enteract.com/~lspitz/audit.html).
> 
> Dont' forget, if you are doing Hide address translation, this means all
> return packets have the IP address of your firewall.  If the return packets
> have any failures (such as TTL expiring), then the firewall responds on
> their behalf, giving out information.
> 
> I'll be doing a total rewrite of my "Building Your Firewall Rulebase"
> where I discuss these and other issues.
> 
> hope this helps :)
> 
> lance
> 
> 

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