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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] RE: [FW1] Why choose Nokia? Here's why.
Hi, I agree also with some points of Scott's assessment for the Nokia boxes. They are pretty decent for an inexpensive, basic HA product. However, he was somewhat misleading in his comparison of Stonebeat to Nokia's. I would also disagree with Mark's statement that Stonesoft is the market leader simply because we were first. It might have something to do with the fact that the product works, and has many good features as well. :-) For clarification, Stonesoft offers several different products: 1. We have our original StoneBeat product, which provides basic HA in either a hot standby or load sharing configuration. 2. We have StoneBeat FullCluster, which competes most directly with Rainfinity's RAINwall-E product. FullCluster offers dynamic load balancing (which you cannot do with Nokia's), scalability (up to 16 nodes per cluster) [the same as Rainfinity], a fully customizable test subsystem, and support for Check Point, Gauntlet and Raptor firewalls, and NT, Solaris and Linux OSs. 3. With the StoneBeat product you also have SecurityCluster (anti-virus, other CVP and eventually IDS software), WebCluster (IIS, iPlanet, Apache), CacheCluster, and DNSCluster. All of those products can be monitored and controlled in one easy-to-use Java-based GUI. Why cluster just the firewall when you can cluster and load balance your entire mission critical network services? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Boltz Stonesoft, Inc. Network Security Specialist 115 Perimeter Center Place [email protected] South Terraces, Suite 1000 Tel:Atlanta, GA 30346 Cel:USA Fax:http://www.stonesoft.com "Mark Decker" <[email protected]> on 09/22/2000 03:22:05 PM Please respond to [email protected] To: "Scott Schindler" <[email protected]> cc: [email protected] (bcc: Mark Boltz/Stone) Subject: RE: [FW1] Why choose Nokia? Here's why. Of software-based HA solutions for FW-1, I'd say the top three include StoneBeat, Rainwall, and Check Point's own HA. Right now StoneBeat has the largest installed base, simply because they were the first to market. Rainwall is rapidly gaining ground because it is more scalable and less expensive than the others. If you'd like to review it, you can request a free 30-day license via our website at http://www.rainfinity.com. I don't count Nokia in this group because appliances are a different animal. Nokia competes more with the Cisco PIX than with products like Rainwall. VRRP is just a standard protocol supported by some of their models, not a separate product. As an HA solution, VRRP is adequate for some purposes, but it can't do dynamic load balancing and does nothing to address scalability. Mark L. Decker Rainfinity [email protected] Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Scott Schindler Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:55 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FW1] Why choose Nokia? Here's why. Great point Mark, however most companies are not ready to choose a solution not in the top 3, even if it works better or saves them money! I agree however that the lack of load balancing capabilities is a very limiting factor. Is Rainwall, which I have heard a lot about, in or near the top 3? Perhaps I should review it if it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Decker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:12 PM Subject: RE: [FW1] Why choose Nokia? Here's why. > Point of correction: > > To be fair, the VRRP-based hot-standby solution offered by Nokia > shouldn't be compared with HA solutions costing $12k or more. For that > much money, you can get something like Rainwall-E, which offers dynamic > load balancing and performance gains not possible with VRRP. It would > be more accurate to compare Nokia's HA solution with a basic HA product > like Rainwall-S, which sells for only $5k. > > That said, Nokia has a very convenient package overall. > > Mark L. Decker > Rainfinity > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > Scott Schindler wrote: > > >Built in High availability. How much is Stonebeat? Check Point's > solution? ($12000 - $20000) > > ============================================================================ ==== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the instructions at http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html ============================================================================ ==== ================================================================================ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the instructions at http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html ================================================================================ ================================================================================ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the instructions at http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html ================================================================================
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